From the friendly skies, hello and welcome to a WRITTEN version of the Sound Of Hockey Patreon Mailbag. I’m en route to South Florida, where I’ll catch up with the embattled Seattle Kraken for the next two contests against the Florida Panthers on Tuesday and the Tampa Bay Lightning on Thursday, games from which they desperately need to pick up some standings points.
Last week, we recorded our monthly Patreon Mailbag podcast episode, delivered as one of the benefits of being a Sound Of Hockey Patreon subscriber. We answered the below questions and many more, but those verbal answers are typically off the cuff and intentionally lead to debate between myself and my co-hosts, John Barr and Curtis Isacke.
We always get great questions from our Patreon subscribers, but after spending some time thinking about some of these questions, I wanted to put more thoughtful responses down on paper. I’m offering this written version up to all Sound Of Hockey readers in the hopes that a few more of you may be inclined to join our Patreon community by clicking here.
Either way, enjoy!
John O. – “If you could lock up Bobby McMann before July 1, how much money and term do you think would do the trick, and how much would be too much?”
The Bobby McMann contract situation is such a fascinating one. Despite being 29 years old, he’s really only been a full-time NHLer for the last two seasons, and he’s scored 43 goals in that time, plus 15 more as a part-timer in 2023-24.
With that lack of experience comes a current contract that pays him just $1.35 million AAV. Also bearing in mind that this could be the only time McMann can really cash in on the open market, his salary is set to skyrocket on his next deal.
Will that next deal come in Seattle or elsewhere? How much will it take for the Kraken to keep him around and forgo his one chance in his prime years to hit unrestricted free agency? Is he viewed as a player who will consistently rack up 25-ish goals, now that he’s completed his long and winding journey to the NHL?
My guess is that if he continues producing, even sporadically, the rest of the season, the Kraken will want him back, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they feel the need to go north of $5 million per year over, say, five years. But even then, the opportunity to choose his next playing home could prove too enticing to keep him in the Pacific Northwest. I would be hesitant to offer a player with this short of a track record anything more than the $4-5 million range, and that already feels quite rich.
One other thing to consider: McMann burst onto the scene with four goals and two assists in his first three games with the Kraken. In the two games since—at Nashville and at Columbus—he’s been held off the scoresheet. This aligns with the “streaky scorer” scouting report that we received upon his acquisition from Toronto, so it may behoove the Kraken to wait a little longer and see if he keeps piling up numbers or if his early output was just a “new team” bump.
Anna R. – “It seems like we will either barely make it or barely not make it to the playoffs. I don’t see any of our players in development as a generational talent. How can the Kraken get better if they don’t tank? Right now it seems like we will be perpetually in the middle.”
I don’t blame you for feeling this way, Anna, and I’ve also been struggling to understand the big-picture plan from the organization (you likely heard me complaining about the state of the franchise on the latest Sound Of Hockey Podcast or in this Three Takeaways).
One thing that is encouraging to me is that Seattle has successfully developed several of its players into full-time NHLers. We all would have hoped to see Shane Wright take another step this year—and I do worry that if they end up cutting bait and trading him, he’ll immediately flourish in a different system with more offensive talent around him.
But aside from Wright, Seattle also has Jacob Melanson, Jani Nyman, Ryan Winterton, and Ryker Evans on the current roster after drafting those players and bringing them up through Coachella Valley. Plus, there’s Matty Beniers and Berkly Catton, who made the jump straight to the NHL, and Joey Daccord, who one could argue was “developed” by the Kraken organization after they plucked him from Ottawa in the 2021 Expansion Draft.
So that’s roughly a third of the roster made up of young players who were either drafted and went straight to the NHL or spent time with the Firebirds before ascending. And of course, there are other young players knocking on the door, and it likely won’t be long before we see Jake O’Brien in deep sea blue.
The draft-and-develop plan takes an exceedingly long time, though, as we’re seeing. Now that those young players are starting to arrive, it’s not like they can jump in and dominate the league. We still have to wait for them to mature into veteran players, and even then, there’s no guarantee they will become core contributors.
So how does the front office speed up that process? I see just one possible route: cashing in some of the extensive draft capital the Kraken have built up from being sellers three out of their first four years and finding creative ways to land a couple of star players via trade. General manager Jason Botterill and president of hockey ops Ron Francis have implied at times that they want to make these kinds of moves and that they don’t intend to use all the draft picks they’ve obtained, but aside from a few moves for middle-of-the-pack players, they’ve never made a big swing.
If they’re serious about improving faster than just waiting on the kids to become the core of the team, this is the route they’ll need to take.
Kendall A. – “Should I get a Melanson jersey?”
That’s a fantastic question about a topic I generally enjoy and one I’ve oddly put a lot of thought into over the years: maximizing your jersey selection return on investment.
First, let me say that you can’t really go wrong with any player name/number. (I’m not a big fan of personalized ones with the fan’s name or some random saying or nickname on the back, but I know these are also popular choices, and I don’t dump on people who go this route; it’s just not my personal jam.)
As for narrowing it down and deciding which player’s jersey to buy, there are two factors that make for a “good” selection. The first is landing on a player with staying power. You can maximize your return by choosing a relatively young player you expect to stick with the team for a long time.
But I also find value in some level of obscurity—choosing a jersey that won’t show up on 1,000 of your closest friends when you attend a game. For example, we all expect Matty Beniers to stick with the team for many years, and he’s a big fan favorite. So although No. 10 is probably a safe purchase in terms of long-term relevance, you’ll be but a mere foot soldier in an army of Beniers jersey-wearers. It’s just a bit too “mainstream” for my liking.
Having said all that, although I have strong opinions about what makes a good jersey selection, I’m not a big purchaser of jerseys. I’ve only bought two players’ jerseys over my many years of hockey fandom. One was a massive hit in terms of value, and the other was Chris Driedger, purchased in advance of the Kraken’s inaugural season when I thought he’d be the “1B” goalie to Philipp Grubauer for several years (he played 29 total games for Seattle across three seasons).
The “massive hit” was a Jonas Brodin Minnesota Wild jersey that I bought during his second season in the NHL, when he was just 20 years old. In retrospect, it was a risky bet, because Brodin was so young that there was no telling at the time if he’d stick around long-term. But 12 years later, he still flies under the radar—meaning his jersey isn’t all that mainstream—and he’s still logging 20-plus minutes per night for the Wild.
Now, back to Kendall’s actual question: “Should I buy a Melanson jersey?” There’s some risk there. Melanson has mostly stuck with the NHL team this season and has been a big part of its success when Seattle has strung together wins. But he’s also been a healthy scratch at times and never plays big minutes.
If he sticks as a Kraken for at least five years, you’ve knocked it out of the park by purchasing his jersey. If he doesn’t, you’ll end up with a relic. Relics are also cool (my favorite Kraken jersey I’ve seen in the wild is a Dennis Cholowski jersey), but you have to recognize that this is a real possibility with Melanson.
If you’re comfortable accepting that risk, I say buy the jersey.
Paul W. – “Would you rather play Colorado in the first round or secure the fifth-best lottery odds in this year’s draft?”
That’s a tough call, but I’d rather play Colorado. A fifth-overall pick is great, but realistically, whoever that player ends up being is at least three or four years away from making a real impact. I’d like the Kraken to start accomplishing their stated goal of making the playoffs every year.
Plus, the Avalanche have faced such little adversity this season that you just never know what can happen.
Adam R. – “It seems like Seattle is not a desirable location for a lot of players in the league. Why? Is it just the lack of proven success? We’re a no-tax location (for now), with a state-of-the-art practice facility and a brand-new barn. Winters are pretty mild, though not sunny. What gives?”
I do think it’s a lack of success. Players are treated very well and have first-class facilities, plus an ownership group committed to spending whatever it takes to be considered a top-flight organization. But if a player has a say in where he lands and can choose between the warm, sunny weather of Dallas, Vegas, Florida, Tampa Bay, or even Carolina—five organizations that have either won recently or appear ready to win—versus a team that has so far demonstrated that it is simply waiting for its kids to become the core, why would he choose rainy Seattle?
While fans need a clear vision and direction to get on board and fill the arena, I think this is also true of players. Before they sign a five-year contract to uproot their families and move to a dreary (in the winter) and expensive city, they want to know they’ll be able to win and put up their own personal stats so they can still make good money on their next contract. The Kraken are built to be a defense-first team, and the coaches that have been hired (and fired, in Dan Bylsma’s case) reinforce this line of thinking. Big offensive numbers are hard to come by for Kraken players, aside from Year 2 when everything seemed to click under Dave Hakstol.
The Kraken don’t have a great track record of winning or allowing players to flourish offensively at this point, and that is creating a vicious cycle for them.
Connor D. – “If you had to play a round of golf using only one club, which one would you pick?”
When I read this question on the Patreon Mailbag podcast, I was wavering between a six iron and a seven iron. Now that I’ve thought about it for a few days (and I have thought about it), I’ve landed on a seven iron. I’m obviously sacrificing distance off the tee by choosing a mid-iron, but I want something with enough loft that I can still chip around the green, because I know I won’t be hitting many greens without a full complement of clubs. The seven is the longest club I’m comfortable using for chipping. Plus, I can still hit my seven about 170 yards with decent accuracy, so even on a 500-yard par five, if I hit my first two shots 170 and 170, I’m within range of the green in regulation on my third shot. A long par four will be bad news, but such is life.
So, seven iron is the play. Putting will be hard, but that would be true of any club in the bag other than the putter, and I’m not using the putter as my one club.
(From the SOH Discord) – FMammal: “I think Darren’s too depressed to make a Three Takeaways for the CBJ game.” LoveMonkey: “Do we need a wellness check for Darren?”
I do appreciate the concern. I’m fine, I just couldn’t bring myself to waste another hour or two of my beautiful Saturday writing about that miserable game after I had already invested three hours of agony into watching it.





Hi Darren. You seem to agree with the premise that “Seattle is not a desirable location for a lot of players in the league” because you skip ahead to addressing the reason why. Do you have specific reason to believe that premise? Are you just buying the general reputation/rumors? Other than Panarin who apparently ONLY wanted to go to L.A., are there specific anecdotes of players rejecting Seattle?
By the way, I would classify my Daccord Winter Classic jersey as a “massive hit.” A) the winter classic jersey is one of the best of all time; B) Daccord has already had a nice little career for the team; and C) it commemorates a specific, incredible event, which is his shutout at the Winter Classic.
I wasn’t asked if I agreed with that premise, but I do agree based solely on the fact that they haven’t landed top talent. Why they haven’t landed it is just my opinion, and outside of Panarin, I don’t know who they’ve tried to get. The guys that are here do seem generally happy, but there have been a few disgruntled players over the years. Mostly a role/fit thing, like with Geekie, for example, who didn’t seem to like his spot on the fourth line.
Good pick on the Joey WC jersey.
I was on the fence between getting a Daccord winter classic jersey or a Kartye… I got the Kartye, maybe I can sell it in NY 😂
Or say the hell with it, start a collection and hope it doesn’t end up being a Luke Schenn situation. 🤣
My Kartye collection started because I wanted a Daccord Firebirds jersey, but they’d run out of letter “D’s”. So I added to the Kraken jersey I already had and now I have a Rangers jersey too. And the Kraken jersey is the one that I never managed to get signed…
Andre Burakovsky Kraken jerseys are still online. Just sayin’…….😉
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Many fans seem to have the “sense” that the Kraken are an undesirable landing spot based on the “perception” that top level forwards don’t want to be shackled by playing in a defense first system. Probably fair, but the first reality-based litmus test will be McMann. Assuming the Kraken want to retain him, losing McMann would be a gut punch.
I feel the McMann situation will be interesting. If the kraken offer term and $$$ I could see him staying but I have a sense that it’s would have to be an amount that he feels is more than he could get on the open market, the kraken are desperate enough they might do that if for no other reason to make it look like they didn’t waste picks.
Am I coming across like I have no faith in our management…..
Worth noting, Adam Larsson said today that he’s had more fun in Seattle than the other stops in his career.
Probably because he was in Edmonton last, where was he before? I can picture playing with mcdavid being very intense and then your in a hockey mad market that’s kinda in the middle of nowhere. I also feel like he’s the kind of player that would appreciate this system more than an offensive minded player regardless if they are forward or defensive.
Why not just accept a feel good story without turning it into a negative.
I’ve been so disabused by this organization since the offseason and nothing they’ve done has helped.
I should be more positive about Larson though he’s been a big part of the team since day one and for the most part a rock out there. It’s just hard to get excited about anything with the shit show of RF.
Thanks for the thoughtful analysis re: jersey purchases. I’m going for it!
Given how NHL coaching tends to be a revolving door with teams switching coaches every 2 years it is surprising players would make decision on what team to join based on wanting to go play in a specific system or under a coach. Especially because a strong coach leverages the skills on the team, so I would imagine the sales pitch the Kraken would give a 50 goal scorer would be about building around them and developing a style that compliments their game – they aren’t going to tell McDavid to play like Cirelli/Kopitar.
Building a great team culture with solid leaders and reputation is one factor that is likely to be consistent. I feel better about the Kraken being an appealing team in the long run, sure some individuals may not like their usage but overall it does appear that most players enjoy playing here. Based on everything happening this year I have to imagine that despite the success of the Leafs/Oilers over the last 5+ years, they are going to become unattractive to free agents given the toxicity in the media and even locker room issues with teammates throwing each other under the bus. Both feel on the cusp of becoming a Vancouver like situation where everyone is going to want out of town.
Also not sure if anyone else heard McDavid’s comments on Tampa coaching and how all those players seem to play a very tight system and really know what they are doing. Given Cooper has been leader the team for 10+ years it would argue finding a great coach and giving them tons of time to develop a consistent approach/culture. The irony is the Oilers coach was basically picked by McDavid.
I hesitate to bring this up for obvious reasons, but Montour was the No.1 free agent defenseman available and Stephenson was the No.2 center available when they signed with the Kraken. They almost certainly had options – and yes, Seattle paid a premium – but this idea that Seattle is somewhere to be avoided seems a bit overblown to me.
I’ve mentioned before I don’t know why Monty picked Seattle I feel like he’s the only good example. Chandler was a ridiculous overpayment and something probably no other team was willing to do.
I feel it’s hard to find a great coach as they usually have jobs and a waiting list if they move on. The best odds of finding someone great might be to look at a guy ready for a promotion or someone in a college program that is excelling. Seems like what most teams do is find someone that has failed before and give them another chance. Not many teams are willing to take on a guy that has only failed and has had no success as a head coach… thanks RF.
On another topic… the pregame one, it’s interesting that I appears that Daccord is getting the start again. Grubauer hasn’t looked great lately but you could say the same thing about Daccord, why is LL riding him so hard. It’s not like he’s the hot hand.
According to a lot information I have seen, Seattle is not a place where offensive minded plyers want to land. It is the coaching style that puts off offensive minded players. The system the Kraken play is for the centers on all four lines to to play a defensive position by backing up the defense. Thus, they are not in a scoring position most of the time. Our centers are not talented enough to to carry their line and score if they are always deep in their offensive zone helping out D-men who cannot get the puck into an offensive push. Now you have your wingers being checked by their D or dumping the puck in deep and our wingers , for the most part do no force many turnovers and cannot keep possession of the puck with no shots or shots from the outside. That brings me to management and their choice of talent and afraid to taking a risk. Coaching keeps their shooters to shoot from distance and they are not talented enough to score from the outside and few players are. <y question is why do this if they are not working. Tovinoen is a perfect example. He went from a great shooter to a 3 rd defenseman and you can say the same for Shane Wright. Trying to develop draft picks to become stars is not working as all the players the team has brought up to the Kraken do not understand the system and thus fail to lock into a position. Too many problems to deal with in just one season. Too many rookies to teach leaving the team always hoping one will develop into a star. We need to follow the Lightnings philosophy, What is point of having cap space and more draft picks if we are not going to use the the right way.